The state of pain, or undesired things. Like school cutting off sleep, which is one of the most important things to a pleasant life! This is what utilitarianism, hedonism, darwinism, and many others try to minimize. In fact, this may be one of the most hated things in human history ever.
Existence is basically a swing between pain and boredom (Schopenhauerism. Thus, humans will eternally
suffer for as long as they are alive, even starting from childbirth, as
the child cannot express his or her ideas in words, cannot walk, and
cannot speak… However, some forms of human suffering are indeed worse
than others; being tortured or held captive is pretty high in suffering,
while other things like a small grape falling onto the floor might be
lower. The greatest forms of suffering, like natural disasters, are
usually helped out.
It’s inevitable, as long as they exist. However, the severity of
suffering depends on a whole lot of factors, including living
conditions, finances/assets, cognitive thinking skills, and
problem-solving skills. Still, it exists, like people existing in places
where food and education are extremely scarce and rare.
Societally yes! School before money!
But philosophically, at base state of humans, also yes! Hunt (may feel fear) and eat!
Yet I don't think there is any good justification to increase human pain...
I think so, yet most people have fear in discovery, as it can be against what they previously thought of; this is confirmation bias.
Life is all suffering
Thus, the goal of life is to eliminate suffering.
The three ways to avoid suffering are all flawed.
1. Actually not having them means no will to do things -> boredom (which to the human brain… is indeed another problem.) Plus, it's pretty much impossible to be free of suffering.
2. Ignorance of suffering, in this case, most problems compound over time. Examples:
2a. The problem of lack of oxygen arrives every 10 seconds or so, yet if you stop breathing, it quickly becomes an expensive and dangerous medical issue
2b. Societal views of maturity. eg. With age, some actions like
“childish behavior”, for instance, tomfoolery, are seen as less and less
acceptable. (Even though brains do mature, isn’t this age restriction a
bias/stereotype? But I think it’s fine because it’s somewhat accurate
and the image of an adult doing childish things is hard to
imagine.)
3. The counterargument to saying “living itself is a problem, thus you
have to get rid of it” is that getting rid of the will to live is an even
greater problem (and is not possible within evolutionary principles),
and biologically, and by the laws of evolution, and by social
conditioning, it is indeed pretty hard to do.
Some problems of suffering, like the noise within school caused by others, or corrupt politicians like Kim Jong Un. Usually, the sufferings that are not solvable are indeed caused by other people with much higher authority than me, or the volume is just much higher than one can control. And the brain usually panics when it realizes some things are simply not possible to solve by itself (groups can work, but convincing people, especially authority figures, to change, is nearly impossible.)
See: problem of evil
In life, fundamentally, some say pain is greater than pleasure. But people try not to admit that. They expect that to not be true, chase pleasure, and then fall in the face of pain and fail their logic
Compare the feelings of an animal that is eating another with those of the animal that is being eaten.
There is more pain than pleasure, as humans create more pain than pleasure when they kill an organism (organism, plant feels pain? Regardless, animals certainly feel pain).
Alternatively, an organism eating the same species, pain of death probably greater than the pleasure of the survivor eating the dead, means a bit of pleasure from temporarily mitigating the problem of hunger, but not for humans.
Yet some say that how we measure suffering and pleasure is merely subjective, and due to darwinism and the will to live, pain is more noticeable than joy! Objectively, there may not be a way to classify.
The state of pain, or undesired things. Like school cutting off sleep, which is one of the most important things to a pleasant life! This is what utilitarianism, hedonism, darwinism, and many others try to minimize. In fact, this may be one of the most hated things in human history ever.
Existence is basically a swing between pain and boredom (Schopenhauerism. Thus, humans will eternally
suffer for as long as they are alive, even starting from childbirth, as
the child cannot express his or her ideas in words, cannot walk, and
cannot speak… However, some forms of human suffering are indeed worse
than others; being tortured or held captive is pretty high in suffering,
while other things like a small grape falling onto the floor might be
lower. The greatest forms of suffering, like natural disasters, are
usually helped out.
It’s inevitable, as long as they exist. However, the severity of
suffering depends on a whole lot of factors, including living
conditions, finances/assets, cognitive thinking skills, and
problem-solving skills. Still, it exists, like people existing in places
where food and education are extremely scarce and rare.
I think so, yet most people have fear in discovery, as it can be against what they previously thought of; this is confirmation bias.
Life is all suffering
Thus, the goal of life is to eliminate suffering.
The three ways to avoid suffering are all flawed.
1. Actually not having them means no will to do things -> boredom (which to the human brain… is indeed another problem.) Plus, it's pretty much impossible to be free of suffering.
2. Ignorance of suffering, in this case, most problems compound over time. Examples:
2a. The problem of lack of oxygen arrives every 10 seconds or so, yet if you stop breathing, it quickly becomes an expensive and dangerous medical issue
2b. Societal views of maturity. eg. With age, some actions like
“childish behavior”, for instance, tomfoolery, are seen as less and less
acceptable. (Even though brains do mature, isn’t this age restriction a
bias/stereotype? But I think it’s fine because it’s somewhat accurate
and the image of an adult doing childish things is hard to
imagine.)
3. The counterargument to saying “living itself is a problem, thus you
have to get rid of it” is that getting rid of the will to live is an even
greater problem (and is not possible within evolutionary principles),
and biologically, and by the laws of evolution, and by social
conditioning, it is indeed pretty hard to do.
Some problems of suffering, like the noise within school caused by others, or corrupt politicians like Kim Jong Un. Usually, the sufferings that are not solvable are indeed caused by other people with much higher authority than me, or the volume is just much higher than one can control. And the brain usually panics when it realizes some things are simply not possible to solve by itself (groups can work, but convincing people, especially authority figures, to change, is nearly impossible.)
See: problem of evil
In life, fundamentally, some say pain is greater than pleasure. But people try not to admit that. They expect that to not be true, chase pleasure, and then fall in the face of pain and fail their logic
Compare the feelings of an animal that is eating another with those of the animal that is being eaten.
There is more pain than pleasure, as humans create more pain than pleasure when they kill an organism (organism, plant feels pain? Regardless, animals certainly feel pain).
Alternatively, an organism eating the same species, pain of death probably greater than the pleasure of the survivor eating the dead, means a bit of pleasure from temporarily mitigating the problem of hunger, but not for humans.
Yet some say that how we measure suffering and pleasure is merely subjective, and due to darwinism and the will to live, pain is more noticeable than joy! Objectively, there may not be a way to classify.
It looks like hunger is a negative sum game, but in fact, I think the Homo sapiens species is doing well because the remains of animals and plants consumable by them are being factory-mass-produced way more than what they demand and biologically need + Homo sapiens themselves aren’t being eaten by legalism and their advanced technological protection
Someone: You should be grateful!
Me: I am biologically surviving off smaller meats and vegetables. It's a
survival requirement… In fact, those without it would be dead, which
means they won’t feel ungrateful in the first place… So I don’t need to
be grateful; I just take it as fact. I don’t want my existence to be
nullified. In fact, forced gratefulness is toxic because it’s not a free
choice; it’s a forced consequence made in distress! (Does a car feel
grateful for gasoline? No.) Me: "I eat the remains of animals"
Someone: Gross
Me: Reality. Eating something that does not remain is physically
impossible.
(Realism)
When the straight up honest truth about human suffering makes people uncomfortable. People even calling honesty "brutal" as in a negative connotation. Despite the honest suffering being the most honest and needs to be accepted! to prevent societal problems and cognitive dissonance!